*USMC* United - Since 2004

"^if our main goal was to prove something, then ye, there could be a possibility to fail, We posted everything we had and analyzed it from our point of view."

| Real Proof. | .Claims | Quotes | Conclusion | Comment |

Claims

Look for yourself here.

What do you see? One Page of "evidence"

What exactly is on that page? They constantly dwell on the fact that they have so much evidence on us, like there are so many things we can't explain? So, what is that page really? Huge fake pictures taking up space? Or short paragraphs of contradicting quotes perhaps? Ill answer those questions, they are four huge conspiracy theories based off their own conclusions and opinions.

"We posted everything we had and analyzed it from our point of view." - NICE!

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Most people read the topic usmc united at the kma forum. Thank you for your counter arguments!

*Everything thats underlined is a link.

Sokolov Conversations! - A whole quarter of that page is taken up by pictures with huge pixel dimensions that even you admit probaly arn't real? Even people that believe you guys say this is a weak part and defeats your purpose of making the site believable. Note: You dont want Sokolov as an enemy.

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Memory Editing? - They admit that they know these might not be real as well? More huge pictures taking up space! I bet your half way down the page? Aright, so first off. Does anybody know what the fuck this program is? I sure as hell dont. And if you want to try and say that this wasn't photoshopped even when photoshop was opened on the same damn screenshot. Then how does random numbers in a box you can't even make out prove anything at all? Sokolov compared my memory to Revolvers to show a hackers memory compared to a normal players memory. And whats really funny about that is that I Revolver recently asked Sokolov for hacks (which he turned down btw). Whats even more funnier then that. Sokolov compared Revolvers memory to the makers of USMCTruth and it was the exact same result hahaha.

Their Counter? - "we cannot prove they are real so with some of the screenshots thier is nothing you or I can say." - Click here.

As you can tell they weren't even sure themselves and couldn't totally prove it. Yet, this is their heading? "This Website has been made anonymously to PROVE the fact that USMC Jack, Sokolov and TJ have been fucking chaser players around for a long long time now." - At least the admin admitted it was a lie to catch the readers attention.

"Noone would even bother read it, if in the intro itself we didn't call people's attention." - Lying to get people to read their shitty site.

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USMC uber hack! - Lets point out the obvious first. They said that there is evidence saying that other USMC members hack as well? Which is?!? They wanted to make it a USMC problem even though there is nothing here ever that proves USMC as a clan hacking.

"I propose that USMC should be banned from ALL Future Chaser tournaments and I STRONGLY advise that you reject any clan wars against them. Not only TJ, Sokolov and Jack but also all USMC members. It is also thought that Patriot, Pot and Killjoy use the USMC Uber Trainer. Although this has never been proven, thier is still evidence that suggests this. "

Here is what they claim is an ^uber hack. Because this program was minimized on my desktop with a similar logo to hack trainers? I would say it's good for changing names when the program winack is opened (which you can clearly see they forgot to take out in their own screenshot?).?????

Counter: "Sokolov is your friend and admits in a convienent time?" Yet, he clearly was our friend before usmctruth was even published? So, that would suggest he can see in the future? They rely on Sokolov for all of their evidence yet they don't trust Sokolov. The maker of USMCTruth recently started accusing him for faking screenshots against him as well.. Bottem line, if they can't even trust their source for all of their evidence. Then I doubt they really believe any of their OWN non sense. This is just another reason to believe this was all just a way to compensate for being inferior to USMC.

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Aimbot? - As you can see their only argument was a screenshot of a dead player colored red? When only the heads were colored in Jims patch and Jacob made the mistake of coloring the whole body? Although, color aimbot does exist, just not specifically for chaser. Click here to find out how easy it is to edit something like that. Then click here to find out what the person with the most knowledge in chaser creations has to say.

So, as your only claim against Jack. Why would you put a screenshot of him having no success getting the aimbot? This screenshot can't prove Jack hacks. And yet nobody can say why or how it does? Click here for the long list of failures. If this some how proves he hacks then you forgot to add someone to that site.

Real Aimbot in Action - Verse - Chaser Video? - What do they say? "You turned off your hacks for your video." First off that contradicts all of your little conspiracies that I did hack in my video. Second of all, you can see that I am not hacking. Yet all you say is that a player with decent skill level can make a video of really good highlights? Where? Link me please, thanks. Will I say that aimbot imposible to create? I don't know. And I dont plan on taking the time to find out. Can you prove that USMC uses an aimbot? No, your site doesn't even have a conspiracy theory on how we use it either. All it has is fake evidence on how it exists. So your fourth claim is ruled out as well.

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Patriot fast shot? -

 

Answer these questions:

1.How come the only scene of Patriot actually shooting is recorded with low volume?

2. The game files specifically allow for 10 FPS, if Patriot was fast shooting then how come he was shooting much slower then the allowed speed even with an extra 5 shots added?

3. How come Dasa said he did the nade trick right and then upload a video of a 2 minute glitch fest and Patriot leaving the server as a replacement instead of real proof?

You want the real truth? Here. How about how timely it was. After there was a screenshot of Atecep getting banned from Free server for hacking, Atecep and Dasa have always been quick to cover up shit like this and quickly manipulated fix into banning the person who posted that screenshot (iLoL). Whats even funnier is Crip (USMCtruth master#2) said here that it was bullshit and meant nothing without even looking into it, hilarious shit. The truth is, if the anti hack server made a mistake with "USMC" its suddenly not a mistake anymore. Now thats truly symbolical, not a fake video full of cheap tricks trying to convince people of something thats not true.

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What is even Possible?

" This Website has been made by three players who are all experienced, trustworthy and reliable." - This quote literally makes me sick -

First off, do any of them have experience creating mods of chaser in any way? Do they even know what hacks are possible to create? So how would they be experienced in knowing if someone cheats in the first place? What they clearly showed me is that they thought because people that can create mods must have enough experience with creating hacks too? Let me define the differnce. When you mod things like gun damage, or speed you can no longer be compatible with any other player. So lets see, "^what was being tested here?" As everybody knows there is a mod server that does have modded weapons. The only thing is that in the demo if you make the server and someone connects to it, they automatically get everything modded in their game as well. In the full version it doesn't work this way. People actually have to download that mod. So, if there was something that was giving us an advantage it couldn't have been a mod. Hack trainers are very common. Have I or Jack ever made one? NO! Who has hacks that nobody else has? Lucid. Only problem is, he doesn't play chaser anymore. And when he did play, he never said a single word to me. So their conclusion is that I am Lucid???????????

"^The theory becomes plausible when you say that it was Lucids desktop and the name changer uses the same logo as his." - There are hacks for minesweeper with that same logo first of all. Second of all, where the fuck did I say that was Lucids desktop? I am clearly not Lucid...

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Conclusion

They had four "claims" and all of it was 100 percent proven wrong and admitted to being faked by the creator. If your still convinced something here was a "cover up" or unexplained. Then ask yourself these questions: Why would they rely on all of their evidence from someone they don't trust and dislike strong especially when they recently started accusing him of fake evidence against them? Lastly, Why did their tone and the way they talk now sound so much differnt from when they first made the site:

Before and after this page (quotes from USMCTruth)

BEFORE - This Website has been made anonymously to prove the fact that USMC Jack, Sokolov and TJ have been fucking chaser players around for a long long time now.

AFTER - Yes, you have answered many questions and I'm glad for that, but in my point of view, just like us, you cannot prove anything of what you've said there, that page just shows your point of view in this, and tries to counter it.